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30 August 2011 @ 11:58 am
Worldcon supporting memberships: well, this is nice :)  
Well it's been almost a week and things seem to have worked out awfully nicely :)

- Thanks to purplefrog26 and kirizal also offering supporting memberships, we had three!

- And three awesome people signed up: scamis, tithenai, and prezzey :) So, you guys, we're getting you all supporting memberships! Er, details about how to be worked out as soon as I have a spoon or two.

Doing this has been eye-opening. I hadn't fully understood how many barriers there are in the way of multiply marginalized people participating in the nominating/voting process; money is very clearly not the only one. Of course financial difficulty doesn't exactly go with tons of leisure time, but also seems from conversations I've had in the last few days that the overall normativity of the field is also a huge barrier.

...Which, okay, is not exactly news. I know it's triggery to be erased and misrepresented, and that it's hard and risky to find work that doesn't do that. And I knew that was a problem for me given all my spoonfails. But I hadn't realized how much my experience was part of a larger problem here.

All of which is to say I'd also like to extend gratitude and admiration to scamis, tithenai, and prezzey for being willing to take this on :)
 
 
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Alec Austinalecaustin on August 30th, 2011 07:13 pm (UTC)
I'm really glad to hear you found three people willing to take things on.

I also hope (without in any way wanting to put pressure on you or said individuals) that in the lead-up to nominations, that we can get a conversation going about specific works that strike people as particularly worthy. When 30 nominations are enough to get stories onto the ballot, buzz and conversation matters.
Polenthpolenth on August 30th, 2011 09:49 pm (UTC)
I'm hoping there are some discussions too. I'm not Hugoing, but I do have Nebula cosmic powers this year, so any prods about stuff to read is always welcome.
(no subject) - shweta_narayan on August 31st, 2011 04:34 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - polenth on August 31st, 2011 07:49 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - shweta_narayan on August 31st, 2011 04:33 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Dr. Kvetchrose_lemberg on August 30th, 2011 07:48 pm (UTC)
Squee!

I know it's triggery to be erased and misrepresented, and that it's hard and risky to find work that doesn't do that. And I knew that was a problem for me given all my spoonfails. But I hadn't realized how much my experience was part of a larger problem here.

Cannot add anything to this due to spooncrash, but yes, this exaclty.
Becca Stareyesbeccastareyes on August 30th, 2011 08:00 pm (UTC)
It's also a reminder to me to get a supporting membership, since I can afford it and also have Opinions on things. (And it'll get me reading more short fiction, which is always good -- I like it, but it's not something I can take on the bus unless I buy an anthology or remember to put it on my eReader.)
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on August 31st, 2011 04:35 pm (UTC)
yay!

And, yeah, ereaders & short fiction, wish I knew how to make that work better...
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Dashspacehawk on August 30th, 2011 09:53 pm (UTC)
Yes. I think there are multiple access issues: one of course is the money to buy it, but another is the mail system internationally, which doesn't always work or work in a timely enough fashion. Not everything can be purchased digitally online and I've heard of it taking months for books to arrive in some places.

Supporting someone's membership frees up those funds to purchase books, but only the books that one can actually get. (I do not know of a solution to this, other that to convince more publishers to sell digital copies of the books.)

I fully support the creation of a fund to help people get access to stuff where money is the principal barrier -- it would be awesome if we could get corporate sponsorship for this, too. I think the advertising and positive word of mouth would help publishers who contribute to the fund.
(no subject) - prezzey on August 30th, 2011 11:28 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - redbird on September 1st, 2011 02:22 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - prezzey on September 1st, 2011 02:26 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - rose_lemberg on August 31st, 2011 03:07 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - spacehawk on August 31st, 2011 07:31 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - rose_lemberg on August 31st, 2011 04:22 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - shweta_narayan on August 31st, 2011 04:27 pm (UTC) (Expand)
OK I've made some blog posts - prezzey on September 1st, 2011 02:32 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - prezzey on August 31st, 2011 05:29 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Dash: Agendaspacehawk on August 30th, 2011 10:00 pm (UTC)
Doing this has been eye-opening. I hadn't fully understood how many barriers there are in the way of multiply marginalized people participating in the nominating/voting process; money is very clearly not the only one. Of course financial difficulty doesn't exactly go with tons of leisure time, but also seems from conversations I've had in the last few days that the overall normativity of the field is also a huge barrier.

Yes, thank you all for this! It is very very important.
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shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on August 31st, 2011 04:37 pm (UTC)
yay for seat-of-pants stuff working since I'm not up for anything more organized :)
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shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on August 31st, 2011 04:37 pm (UTC)
<3
[ein od milvado]: eagles_on_pogo_sticksprezzey on August 30th, 2011 11:17 pm (UTC)
Thank you, I will shortly begin posting on prezzey_public about this... I just wanted to put up a small drawing on my website and ran into a huge issue with Inkscape. -.-;;

I'm quite surprised people have already begun adding prezzey, but that one only features my quite boring day-to-day rants.
Dr. Kvetch: stone tellingrose_lemberg on August 31st, 2011 03:03 am (UTC)
I was one of the people who added you, since thanks to this I could now connect your name and your LJ presence. (psst, you still have a poem under "rewrite requests" at Stone Telling, from last year; any chance you'd still want to revise it a bit? Our next issue is Science Fiction. Please feel free to email me for ideas :)
I'm sorry! - prezzey on August 31st, 2011 03:08 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: I'm sorry! - rose_lemberg on August 31st, 2011 03:16 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: I'm sorry! - shweta_narayan on August 31st, 2011 04:23 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Inkscape etc (tangent!) - shweta_narayan on August 31st, 2011 04:42 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Inkscape etc (tangent!) - prezzey on August 31st, 2011 11:46 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Inkscape etc (tangent!) - shweta_narayan on August 31st, 2011 11:54 pm (UTC) (Expand)
scamisscamis on August 31st, 2011 12:07 am (UTC)
Energy to read stuff is hardly ever a problem...I read like the wind. Purchasing it could be, though I DO have a Nook which I acquired for the purpose of having less books to move from place to place; I could also send some of my books off to Powell's for credit.

But...well, for a variety of reasons including the fact that it was a habit I couldn't financially afford and also grad school, I have gotten out of the habit of reading much "new" fiction. I do read some. Advice on how to broaden my scope and where I should be looking and at what would be welcome.

shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on August 31st, 2011 04:38 pm (UTC)
Yay, and somuch yes to starting up conversations about books you guys may want to read. Though I haven't the spoons to actually organize anything. But I'm for it!
scamisscamis on August 31st, 2011 01:39 am (UTC)
I have already learned that Angry Robot offers eARCs to reviewers. For free. No doubt I can find other sources.
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on August 31st, 2011 04:38 pm (UTC)
Yay for Angry Robot!
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