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15 February 2012 @ 12:12 am
made it to Edinburgh.  
There was somewhat less smoke than I'd expected. There was still more than I can deal with without major consequences, and far more than I'd been assured of with every "Oh it's so much better now".

I am suffering said consequences now. Whee. And will continue to do so while looking for housing. Whee.

One reason I have trouble trusting most people's accounts of smoke: I got told multiple times by multiple people who claimed to have been "specifically watching out" that the train stations were smoke-free. This is technically true; it's just not actually true of the actual air in the train stations, because people are gathered at the entrances smoking.

This didn't surprise me.

Nor did the guy sitting near us in the station who started rolling up a cigarette with perfect entitlement. We left.

Nor did the line of smokers leaning against the non-smoking signs as we left the Edinburgh station.

So, yeah, you guys, this is able privilege at work; all of this? Apparently totally invisible to well-meaning people who I ask for information. So invisible that they really believe what they've told me about lack of smoke here.

Edinburgh is a lovely city, yes. But I doubt I'm going to be able to get out into it much.
 
 
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Marissa Lingenmrissa on February 15th, 2012 12:39 am (UTC)
Oh, blarg. I am so sorry it's like that.
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on February 15th, 2012 11:38 am (UTC)
It was better than I'd expected, though. Just... I was expecting worse because I have learned not to trust well-meaning able friends who tell me I'll be fine. Of course they think I'm freaking out over nothing, till it turns out yet again to not be nothing. That's a problematic dynamic, isn't it? Thinking it out, mostly.
Marissa Lingenmrissa on February 15th, 2012 01:31 pm (UTC)
Sadly, I know that problematic dynamic all too well. "Oh, it's no big thing, you can just...." SIGH.
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on February 15th, 2012 05:04 pm (UTC)
yeah :/
A Wandering Hobbitredbird on February 15th, 2012 01:08 am (UTC)
I'm sorry.

It sounds like a lot of people don't understand the difference between "better than it was" and "good enough."
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on February 15th, 2012 11:39 am (UTC)
Yes, and they're absolutely right about better than it was.

Maybe it's more... they have very optimistic ideas of what's good enough? If they don't notice smoke it wasn't there?
zwolzwol on February 15th, 2012 07:17 pm (UTC)
Back when I first met you, I remember you dodging clouds of smoke that I couldn't smell. I learned to notice them pretty quick -- so now other people are surprised when I complain about smoke that they can't smell. And then they don't believe me when I tell them I know someone who might have a full-on asthma attack from that much smoke.

I dunno about the doorways, though, that seems like it would be apparent even to people who haven't trained themselves to notice. The only thing I can think of is, part of the incredulity I get is people not getting that one lungful can be too much exposure.

in summary: bleah. *hugs*
Chomiji: Yuya-Mahiro - girlfriendschomiji on February 15th, 2012 02:28 am (UTC)

Oh, yuck. I'm so sorry. My problems with smoke are not nearly so severe, but yes, I've found that I can't completely trust the reassurances of anyone who isn't sensitive to it.

shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on February 15th, 2012 11:41 am (UTC)
Yeah, it seems to be pretty much impossible for them to comprehend that someone *can* be significantly more sensitive.

I'm glad your problems aren't as severe, though :)
Chomijichomiji on February 16th, 2012 11:02 pm (UTC)


All I get are headaches (which can be nasty and last for hours, but still - it's a headache, not breathing issues) and sometimes a bit of angina. Most of the time I can forget that I am in fact a heart patient, but a big breath of tobacco smoke or bus exhaust, and I am forcefully reminded.


shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on February 16th, 2012 11:06 pm (UTC)
IDK I get the headaches too sometimes, and I think I hate them more than the wheezing; I've been grateful not to get them this time round. Trying to function through either is no fun, of course.

And meep re the angina.
Rachel M Brownrachelmanija on February 15th, 2012 04:19 am (UTC)
Oh, no! I'm very sorry to hear that.
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on February 15th, 2012 11:41 am (UTC)
I have been a big splat. But I saw your last post and am sending *hugs*
Alec Austinalecaustin on February 15th, 2012 04:43 am (UTC)
Uck. I'm sorry to hear that, and I hope that you figure out a way to explore the city at least occasionally without bringing down the hammer of respiratory consequences.
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on February 15th, 2012 11:42 am (UTC)
Or maybe I'll get well enough to deal with the occasional hammer of respiratory consequences.

I like that phrase :)
Trinkertrinker on February 15th, 2012 09:55 am (UTC)
Bleah. I am reminded of other bits of privilege-blindness when it come to assessing risk. I'm sorry that this is so.
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on February 15th, 2012 11:42 am (UTC)
Yes, it makes me wonder to what extent I do that.
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shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on February 16th, 2012 11:06 pm (UTC)
<3<3
Yeah. Well! It *is* better than I expected :) And microfiber over the nose and mouth is a good thing. It's not enough, but it does make it all more feasible.
Julie Andrewsjulieandrews on February 15th, 2012 02:30 pm (UTC)
They put up nosmoking signs at our citybus transit center in this past year (finally), but it's not enforced at all, so they mean nothing. The drivers, at least, tend to go to the back of the station for their smoke break (not that that still isn't a problem!), but others will just light up where everyone else is waiting.
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on February 16th, 2012 11:07 pm (UTC)
Yeah :/
Most everywhere, Berkeley too of course, with people leaning on the no smoking signs & smoking & claiming to be persecuted when asked to stop.

It's just... numerically more here. And the air is cold, which is also a trigger, and both together are bad.
Kari Sperringla_marquise_de_ on February 15th, 2012 07:05 pm (UTC)
I'm glad you've arrived safely. But yes: that is how it seems to work -- every 'Non-smoking' place is surrounded by individuals who smoke as close as possible to it. It drives me insane and I'm sorry you were subjected to it.
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on February 16th, 2012 11:08 pm (UTC)
Yes, and it's cold enough I understand why they're sticking to the doorways, but, ARGH MISSING THE POINT. Probably deliberately in a lot of cases, of course. *sigh*
Kari Sperringla_marquise_de_ on February 17th, 2012 10:51 am (UTC)
One of the things I was impressed by in Japan was that there were clearly marked outdoor smokers' areas, which were well away from doors and where most people were walking. And the smokers were using them. It's an idea we could usefully import, I think.
Stephanie Burgis: Tired Mayastephanieburgis on February 16th, 2012 10:31 pm (UTC)
Oh, crap. I'm so sorry. :(
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on February 16th, 2012 11:09 pm (UTC)
*hugs*

It is sucky. I need to get to a book store soon though. NEcessities of life and all that. Made it to the grocery today, so maybe bookshop tomorrow :D
opheliastornopheliastorn on February 17th, 2012 03:13 am (UTC)
I don't even have smoke-related problems, but I definitely noticed how insidious smoking was in the UK and Europe when I was travelling. Guh. I hope you find some places you can enjoy yourself in the city, at least!
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