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10 September 2009 @ 06:20 pm
Things I like  
In decreasing order of seriousness

1) UK Govt's clear and non-dithery apology for persecuting Alan Turing.

2) elsmi's post about women in free software.

3) Revathy Sankaran's all-over-India twinkle, twinkle, little star -- it's parody, but loving parody, and she gets so many musical styles spot-on.
 
 
Current Mood: exhaustedwiped
 
 
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Annetxanne on September 11th, 2009 01:45 am (UTC)
3) HEE. And wow, what a voice she has!
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 01:58 am (UTC)
OMG yes!

The second-last version, right before the chant, is the musical style I learned. And that's where her skill stands out to me most.
Annetxanne on September 11th, 2009 02:04 am (UTC)
Good to know! I only have an educated layperson's knowledge of Indian music, but my singer-brain...well, my jaw was on the floor. (I miss my voice. Sigh.)
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 02:05 am (UTC)
Yeah, that's where I am on the rest, with flashes of recognition; I suspect if I knew more about any of the other musical forms, they'd impress me just as much; it's my knowledge that's lacking, not her skill :)
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 02:06 am (UTC)
Also!
well, my jaw was on the floor. (I miss my voice. Sigh.)


Maybe picking your jaw up would help your voice? :helpful tone:
Annetxanne on September 11th, 2009 02:11 am (UTC)
Re: Also!
::pulls a hideous face at you before falling down giggling::
shweta_narayan: igglesshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 02:22 am (UTC)
Re: Also!
:imitates her icon's grin:
Annetxanne on September 11th, 2009 02:26 am (UTC)
Re: Also!
Innocent, yet toothy and eldritch. I do hope you're neither squamous nor rugose in real life, dear.
shweta_narayan: igglesshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 02:31 am (UTC)
Re: Also!
You shall just have to meet me and decide for yourself.
Annetxanne on September 11th, 2009 02:36 am (UTC)
Re: Also!
That's the best plan I've heard in weeks.
shweta_narayan: happyshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 02:37 am (UTC)
Re: Also!
^-^
Alan Yeealan_yee on September 11th, 2009 03:27 am (UTC)
I didn't realize who Alan Turing was until you posted this link. What happened to him was simply horrible.
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 03:40 am (UTC)
Yeah, learning what happened to Turing was part of what made me realize WWII did not have a "good guys" side, despite the propaganda, and that even the Allies were far too philosophically close to the Nazis for my peace of mind.

I suspect I have peaces [sic] of mind strewn all over the place at this point.
Dichroicdichroic on September 11th, 2009 04:05 am (UTC)
There is something about "I'm proud to say we're sorry" that just rubs me the wrong way - makes it sound too much like they're doing it just for the political gain. But I guess that's a minor nit, and I have no real problems with people doing the right thing for the wrong reasons!
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 04:31 am (UTC)
Yeah, wtf.

I think it's supposed to mean, "We are not doing this because you pressured us into it, we're doing it because we agree! And you gave us an opportunity!" ie he's proud of the changes that allow an apology to be made.

But the phrasing raises my hackles there, and elsewhere. But to me, the fact that they didn't varnish the truth of what happened to Turing (I expected polite euphemisms) makes it a net win to me.
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 04:32 am (UTC)
...to me, anyway. :grin:

Sorry about the redundant redundancy of redundancy, that was an edit fail.
Alex Haisthowl_at_the_sun on September 11th, 2009 05:50 am (UTC)
I like that stuff, too. I spent the last half hour reading about women in free software (and following links...).

It is slow work, for me, to figure out how to discuss privilege and sexism and racism. I often run into bemusement from my friends or family when I try to discuss it. Example: My dad calls my mom baby, playfully. He doesn't call her that to minimize her point in a conversation ("Aw, come on, baby, it's not a big deal..."), but I still connect the word to infantalization. And humor can be really insidious with regard to -isms.

So I don't know. Good links, though.
shweta_narayan: igglesshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 09:17 pm (UTC)
Oh goodness, this sort of conversation is so culturally alien to most of my family that I'm not even trying. I'm still working on "You know, X people are people and their being X does not hurt you at all" for many different values of X.
Alex Haisthowl_at_the_sun on September 11th, 2009 09:44 pm (UTC)
That would be an entirely different discussion to have. Where do you even -start-?
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 09:59 pm (UTC)
With real people and real examples.
And sometimes? With Bollywood.
Jo Waltonpapersky on September 11th, 2009 12:43 pm (UTC)
The Turing apology, which I saw in email because I signed the petition, actually brought tears to my eyes. I agree the phrasing on "proud to be sorry" is a bit clumsy, and I didn't like the way he called him "Alan" like they were best friends, but I really liked the whole straightforward admission that we sucked and explicitly linking homophobia with anti-Semitism and Britain with the rest of Europe.
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 09:15 pm (UTC)
Agreed on all of this.

...Though, huh, I signed the petition too but didn't get the email.
sizztheseed on September 11th, 2009 02:01 pm (UTC)
Thanks for that Revathy link. It's HILARIOUS. She's got the punjabi down PAT.
shweta_narayan: mangatarshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 09:19 pm (UTC)
My sense is that she has all of it down pat :)
Kari Sperringla_marquise_de_ on September 11th, 2009 02:15 pm (UTC)
Every once in a while my prime minister does something quite cool: this was one of those moments, and I am particularly glad that he remembered all the other men who also suffered as well as Alan Turing.
Thank you so much for the the link to Revathy Sankaram's piece. Wonderful, and her voice is beautiful. Though I'm a white girl, I grew up in Leicester, England, which has quite a large Punjabi population, and that section really made me smile. (Also, her impression of the little girl singing to her dadi-ma is adorable.)
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 09:20 pm (UTC)
Yes, too often they apologize just to the one famous person, don't they? I'm very glad he remembered that Turing was one of thousands to suffer.

"That uncle is looking at me!" :)
Kari Sperringla_marquise_de_ on September 11th, 2009 10:57 pm (UTC)
"That uncle is looking at me!" :)

Yes: that line just cracked me up totally. She's a comedic genius. I'll be looking out for her in future.
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 11:15 pm (UTC)
She so is! She has other youtube videos, but other than her original twinkle twinkle, I don't get them.
Aparna: Musical Notesinspirethoughts on September 11th, 2009 05:24 pm (UTC)
Yep...she had done a great job. I mentioned about her in my blog too here some time last year.
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on September 11th, 2009 09:21 pm (UTC)
Oh! Did I totally miss that or did I not know you then?
*has a very bad sense of time*
Aparna: Myselfinspirethoughts on September 14th, 2009 03:52 pm (UTC)
Could be that we hadnt known each other back then. :)
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