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15 September 2010 @ 04:05 pm
Ugh.  
Anti-immigrant, assimilationist if-they-don't-pass-as-white-it's-their-fault rage-inducing xenophobic BULLSHIT warning.

Thanks, Ms. Moon. I loved The Speed of Dark, but now you're joining Harlan Ellison in the Box of Shame.

Anyone I recommended that book to? Unrecommended.

Via maevele.

ETA: Just emailed the Wiscon concom about her being a GoH next year, and how I am NOT okay with that in light of this. No idea if it'll accomplish anything, of course, but it does make me feel uncomfortable/unsafe (and I'm not Muslim, it's got to be a tiny tiny fraction of how she's hurting directly-affected folk) so.

Going off the Wiscon contact page, since I wasn't sure who to write to, I wrote to concom35 [at] wiscon [dot] info.

<ETA2 So apparently people with less fuzzy brains can parse more of that post than I can, and it's EVEN WORSE than I thought. Wow. Apparently Ms Moon thinks the European settlers here were happy community-builders who were welcomed with open arms and... assimilated... or something. Also that the Native people of this continent don't exist?
 
 
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Polenthpolenth on September 15th, 2010 11:43 pm (UTC)
I drifted after the first few paragraphs when I first saw it, so didn't realise how it ended. Now I have read it... oh dear. It's not just the immigration and anti-Islam thing (which are the most obvious). I was struck by the white settlers arriving in America being portrayed as equivalent to modern immigration. To believe it's in any way equivalent, you'd have to pretend the genocide didn't happen, that white settlers had to assimilate into a dominate Native American culture and that Native Americans had the power to send the settlers home (but didn't, after deciding they were okay after all).

To say it's revisionist history is an understatement.
opheliastornopheliastorn on September 15th, 2010 11:49 pm (UTC)
And the only reference to Native Americans in her entire screed was a joke! W. T. F.
shweta_narayan: aieeeeshweta_narayan on September 15th, 2010 11:55 pm (UTC)
You understood it? I have questions!
I couldn't even parse that part. Is that what she's saying? Maybe my problem was I expected it to mean something approximating reality.

Also... does she think all Muslims here are immigrants? Umm.

Similarly is she saying "Older generations of immigrants are bigoted, and that's bad, and I'm bigoted in similar ways, and that's good"? It just.. WUT.

Overall it's inducing almost as much bewilderment in me as it is rage, in fact.
Naominaomikritzer on September 16th, 2010 12:03 am (UTC)
Re: You understood it? I have questions!
I would have read the comments but my head was busy exploding.

I am represented in CONGRESS by a Muslim WHO IS NOT AN IMMIGRANT. FTR. Not that there is anything wrong with the immigrant Somalis who are my neighbors, my kids' classmates, etc.
shweta_narayanshweta_narayan on September 16th, 2010 12:05 am (UTC)
Re: You understood it? I have questions!
I guess, according to her, your congressperson does not exist?

...I go afk and let my head explode over the carpet now.
Naominaomikritzer on September 16th, 2010 12:18 am (UTC)
Re: You understood it? I have questions!
http://ellison.house.gov/

He took his oath of office on a Koran that once belonged to Thomas Jefferson. (He borrowed it from the National Archives.) There was a bit of a manufactured controversy over THAT at the time, too. (Even though, in point of fact, they don't actually take their oath on anything -- they all just raise their right hand. Many hold a family Bible or other holy book while they do so, but it's certainly not REQUIRED. Mainly the "swearing on a Bible" part is pure photo op.)
shweta_narayan: mangatarshweta_narayan on September 16th, 2010 08:55 pm (UTC)
Re: You understood it? I have questions!
Go him :)
Dr. Kvetchrose_lemberg on September 16th, 2010 12:05 am (UTC)
Re: You understood it? I have questions!
Also... does she think all Muslims here are immigrants? Umm.
It seems the underlying logic here is that people of all colors other than white will forever remain immigrants, yes? Because apparently only the colonists were perfect immigrants. o.O
shweta_narayan: aieeeeshweta_narayan on September 16th, 2010 12:06 am (UTC)
Re: You understood it? I have questions!
I don't even... *flails*
Tithenai: girlgenius ragetithenai on September 16th, 2010 12:07 am (UTC)
Re: You understood it? I have questions!
Certainly when assimilating with the native culture (as a good immigrant should) it's helpful to almost completely eradicate that culture in the first place, so that there's, you know, less to adjust to.
Erzebet YellowBoy: yellowboyerzebet on September 16th, 2010 09:12 am (UTC)
Re: You understood it? I have questions!
I love you so much.
Tithenaitithenai on September 16th, 2010 02:29 pm (UTC)
Re: You understood it? I have questions!
*HUGS*
*RAGEHUGS*
*ofrage*
Becca Stareyes: truthbeccastareyes on September 16th, 2010 12:08 am (UTC)
Re: You understood it? I have questions!
Considering how many people of color have lived on this side of the ocean longer than my family, even my mother's side which came here during the Potato Famine (Dad was the first one on his side to move to North America), that's rather ignorant at best. Especially considering those native peoples who have been living here for over a hundred times longer than Mom's family.
Dr. Kvetchrose_lemberg on September 16th, 2010 12:12 am (UTC)
Re: You understood it? I have questions!
that's rather ignorant at best

That's a rather kind take on this :)
Becca Stareyes: truthbeccastareyes on September 16th, 2010 12:21 am (UTC)
Re: You understood it? I have questions!
When the kindest thing I can say to someone is 'you are showing you are ignorant, please educate yourself', there's something wrong.
Polenthpolenth on September 16th, 2010 12:19 am (UTC)
Re: You understood it? I have questions!
I did consider going to poke the wasp's nest by mentioning there are Native American Muslims, but I didn't.
Dr. Kvetch: what?rose_lemberg on September 16th, 2010 12:06 am (UTC)
Yes, I also noticed this. Words desert me here; I keep saying WTF a lot.